Añadido: Jul 3, 2008
De: JohnLArmstrong
Duración: 6:1
http://www.godvsthebible.com/ America was not founded as a Christian nation. This video also features my original music, the first movement from my second symphony (c) 2008. This music is also available on the website linked above.
Categoría: People
Tags: america bible constitution deism fathers founding skeptic study
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RyanDF1987 Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - wow! you're a really great composer!
JJTecumseh87 Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - What about John Locke?He wrote that with got rights from God because since the fall ayda yada.
Tarkus101 Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - "umm Slavery, Racism, genocide, and women's oppression..." Cruncybear, Since you are a Muslim you know Islamic law wouldn't allow such things to happen, right? (LOL)
Cuffsmaster Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - This came up by the fundamentalist in my family recently. I stated a few reason why it was not so and why it is important for political reasons for Pat Robertson and others to claim it is a Christian Nation. That is the problem it is also political because it is at the base of their thinking they have a right to cram their religion up everyone's ass. I told them the facts show it is false but if they want to get together and "lie for Jesus" I can't stop them.
Cuffsmaster Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - I remember back in the late 50's, 60's and early 70's when I went to school it was taught that Jefferson, Washington, Franklin and Paine were not Christians. Today fundamentalist ignore the fact in order to prove a political point. How are they to be believed about anything else they say when this is such a clear lie. I do believe this is a dangerous lie too much like the Arian Nation concept of Germany in the 30's and 40's. In a sense it is to the same purpose.
Cuffsmaster Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - TO claim it's a Christian nation ignores the history of England, France and the Americas during that period of time. THey are being lied to by people that know better too. But remember guys you are talking to a group of people that believe in "talking snakes," the creation in 7 days, talking asses (well I believe in that ) and so many other fairy tales. Lets just lie for Jesus
pbrucetube Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - "It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!" --Patrick Henry
Shalek Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - How does the following verses change anything? They were still told to be a submissive little bitch without question or protest. Just like this video states, christianity was made for the kings no wonder constantine embraced it so eagerly. And being servant was not an option, you were bought(Or taken captive), that to me fits the profile of a slave.
Shalek Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - Emphasis on 'dogs'...
Shalek Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - Which ones have you seen so far? I think the ones they have already are pretty convincing.
Cuffsmaster Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - What is seldom mentioned is that in the early 1800's ministers traveled throughout the country preaching that the early leaders were deist. Some even stated that from Jackson back not were Christians. That was Christians that LIVED THEN stating it. Well, Christians were lairs then or now. You can't claim in the "great awakeing" that all were not Christians and claim they were now.
Cuffsmaster Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - This just proves that Christians preach according to what goes well with the crowd before them and how they are trying to mold public opinion. Back then they said Washington, Jefferson and Madison were deist they had a political reason for doing so. Today they claim they were christians becaise it fits what they want to push on the political.
Cuffsmaster Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - This is one argument that gets me because the evidence is clear that many were deist. They ignore the truth because it does not fit what suits them in the political arena. Shame on them. The early ministers that actually knew the founding fathers "lied for Jesus" or they are lying today. It is amazing to me how weak minded fundamentalist Christians can be in order to make their little friend in the sky real.
Cuffsmaster Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - Sorry John for posting so much on this subject. I just find this lying for Jesus so interesting and the followers choose to blind themself in the face of overwhelming evidence. I was thinking about doing a video on this subject. you filled the bill. Thanks, this is important considered what they would like to do politically with this issue.
madtabby66 Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - Great stuff as always John. Looking forward to more.
AxiomofDiscord Says:
Jul 8, 2008 - Your are right there is a God and that God has a sense of humor no more than I claim to someone that the USA is not founded as Christian nation than you post this lovely video. Thanks and keep up the good work of revealing truth and absurdity for what each is and nothing more or less. ATF of AxiomofDiscord
lilshnappinturtle Says:
Jul 11, 2008 - Wow! Not once did he use the phrase : 'Jacobin coup d'etat' when editing this perfect example of incompetence ridden vituperation.
gin4lyfe Says:
Aug 26, 2008 - In fact he even redid the bible his own way. He stripped the bible of all the supernatural parts such as the virgin birth and the resurrection but kept the morals and ethics it instilled. Google for "Jefferson's Bible" Is that proof enough for you?
vathuglife101 Says:
Aug 27, 2008 - Jesus is not racist. there is no racial difference between a samaritan and a jew! why dont you quote time when jesus taught and healed samaritans (John 4:1-24, Luke 7:1-10, Matthew 28:19).
vathuglife101 Says:
Aug 27, 2008 - interesting that you choose america as an example of deist priciples, and not France. France was the birthplace of the enlightenment, which was followed by many founding fathers. but consider that France was launched into a brutal revoltion in which the state supported deism and persecuted the church.
JohnLArmstrong Says:
Aug 28, 2008 - QUOTE: "Jesus is not racist. there is no racial difference between a samaritan and a jew!" Race is relative. I'm an African-American. All Americans are African-Americans. It's just that American culture has drawn divides according to how many generations it takes for us to trace our roots back there.
JohnLArmstrong Says:
Aug 28, 2008 - QUOTE: "interesting that you choose america as an example of deist priciples, and not France." Could have something to do with the fact that I'm an American.
godgodgodthatsme Says:
Aug 30, 2008 - well the church always gets whats comeing to it they should start killing tv pracher in america so fuck christ and muslims and jews and just be a human being you can believe in god and not follow thoses shit religions deist supermbeing pagan their are many others so fuck off pat robertson
petebax1 Says:
Aug 30, 2008 - Your music is to Germanic to be American. Deism is from the word Deity which means the creator. It is not a religion. To me belief in creation is all you need to be a deist. However your belief should be built on facts and that means the sciences not dogma. Evolution is all about creation that is how God creates. Everyone who believes in factual creation is a deist those who believe in fairy stories are just children of God who need to grow. America was built by deists.



K2Tanner Says:
Jul 7, 2008 - Religion flourishes because of its fear mongering techniques. There is not much satisfaction in converting your friends and family if you are a Deist. It is nice to see some emancipate themselves from mental slavery(bob marley lol) but at the end of the day to me at least it really doesn't matter. I plan to live my life to the fullest and then die. Great video btw. Deism FTW